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Shawn Bay tells her side of the IBC story.
Podcast, Team StoriesIn this episode, Mike Crawford has the opportunity to interview Shawn Bay, Chris's wife! She tells how they got started in their Infinite Banking journey and how it has completely changed the way their family thinks about and handles finances.…

Chat with Mary Jo Irmen
PodcastIn this episode, Chris has the opportunity to talk with Mary Jo about how she found Infinite Banking and created her book. Her passion for ranchers, farmers and Infinite Banking are apparent. Take a listen and check out her website and books.…

Is retirement a four letter word?
PodcastListen as Mike and Chris dive into one of the most fascinating topics within the Infinite Banking Concept - Retirement. Nelson doesn't even say the word, which makes sense, he is still working at 87! This one is worth a listen.

Capitalization of the system
PodcastIn this episode, Mike and Chris discuss one of the foundational aspects of Infinite Banking, capitalization. It can be one of the most powerful and scary aspects of IBC. Listen to learn how Mike and Chris had different approaches and how it…

Respect of and for Nelson Nash
PodcastIn this episode, we go a different direction. Mike and Chris discuss the 'early years' of Infinite Banking. We dive into how respected Nelson has been and continues to be as well as the influence he's had on Mike Everett and the entire Life…

Chat with Kathy Tagenel Pt. 2
PodcastIn part two of this two episode conversation, Chris continues the discussion with Kathy Tagenel, who is the Chief Marketing Officer for Burg Communications, and an all around great person. In this podcast, they get into the details of the Kolbe,…

Chat with Kathy Tagenel – Part 1
PodcastIn part one of this two episode conversation, Chris has the honor of interviewing Kathy Tagenel, who is the Chief Marketing Officer for Burg Communications, and an all around great person. She and Chris talk about her connection to The Go-Giver…

It’s not about investments…
PodcastIn this episode we discuss one of the most unique aspects of the Infinite Banking Concept - investments or the lack there of. Chris and Mike discuss what Nelson is talking about on page three, second column, first sentence of the first full…
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