In this episode, Chris Bay sits down with Pei Chen to discuss her incredible journey into Infinite Banking and velocity banking. Once a curious observer on the sidelines, Pei has grown into one of the most respected voices in the space. She breaks down key concepts, shares real-life implementation examples, and offers insights shaped by years of teaching and hands-on experience. This conversation is packed with wisdom and practical takeaways. Don’t miss Part 1 of this powerful two-part series!



In this episode, Chris, Mike C., and Mike K. dive deep into the third thing IBC can do — what Nelson Nash called Passive Income. Nelson famously removed the word “retirement” from his vocabulary, but what did he actually mean by that? The team explores the history of retirement as we’ve come to know it, unpacks what Nelson laid out in Becoming Your Own Banker, and shares real-world examples alongside the Life Success & Legacy approach to teaching this powerful principle.